Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/01/1993 08:30 AM House FSH

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              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                             
                        February 1, 1993                                       
                            8:30 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Carl E. Moses, Chair                                          
  Representative Harley Olberg, Vice Chair                                     
  Representative Gail Phillips                                                 
  Representative Irene Nicholia                                                
  Representative Cliff Davidson                                                
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  None                                                                         
                                                                               
  OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Ben Grussendorf                                               
  Representative John Davies                                                   
  Representative Bill Williams                                                 
  Representative Jeannette James                                               
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Overview:  Alaska Department of Fish and Game                                
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  Stephen M. White                                                             
  Assistant Attorney General                                                   
  Alaska Department of Law                                                     
  P.O. Box 110300                                                              
  Juneau, AK  99811-0300                                                       
  Phone:  465-6724                                                             
  Position Statement: Commented on and gave a brief overview                   
                      of the lawsuits involving subsistence                    
                      and offshore fisheries                                   
                                                                               
  Representative Ben Grussendorf                                               
  State Capitol, Room 415                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska  99811-1182                                                   
  Phone:  465-3824                                                             
  Position Statement: Compared migration and management of                     
                      fish in navigable waters                                 
                                                                               
  Ron Somerville, Deputy Commissioner                                          
  Alaska Department of Fish & Game                                             
  P.O. Box 25526                                                               
  Juneau, AK  99802-5526                                                       
  Phone:  465-4100                                                             
  Position Statement: Commented on expense involved in                         
                      fighting the lawsuits                                    
                                                                               
  Frank M. Homan, Commissioner                                                 
  Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                        
  Alaska Department of Fish & Game                                             
  8800 Glacier Highway, Suite 109                                              
  Juneau, AK  99801-8079                                                       
  Phone:  789-6160                                                             
  Position Statement: Commented on the details of the five                     
                      Limited Entry Fishing Permits held by                    
                      the IRS                                                  
                                                                               
  Representative Bill Williams                                                 
  State Capitol, Room 128                                                      
  Juneau, AK  99811-1182                                                       
  Phone:  465-3424                                                             
  Position Statement: Inquired about permits currently held by                 
                      the IRS                                                  
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-2, SIDE A                                                            
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN CARL MOSES called the meeting to order at 8:39 a.m.                 
  He noted all members in attendance and asked Steve White to                  
  discuss the lawsuits involving fisheries.                                    
                                                                               
  STEPHEN M. WHITE, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, highlighted                    
  the 22 cases in the packets and noted that most problems                     
  stemmed from interpreting the Alaska National Interest Lands                 
  Conservation Act and the natural migration of fish into                      
  federal waters.                                                              
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE BEN GRUSSENDORF compared the migration of                     
  fish and the management of those fish in navigable waters to                 
  the caribou herds' migration patterns.                                       
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CLIFF DAVIDSON questioned whether there were                  
  sufficient funds to pay for the litigation.                                  
                                                                               
  RON SOMERVILLE, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF                    
  FISH AND GAME (ADF&G), noted Judge Holland had all these                     
  cases and was not taking the issue lightly.                                  
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-2,  SIDE B                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  FRANK HOMAN, COMMISSIONER, COMMERCIAL FISHERIES ENTRY                        
  COMMISSION, said when the IRS was challenged on issues, the                  
  Attorney General's office handled them.  He further stated                   
  that the Limited Entry Permits were auctioned off to                         
  individuals, not to corporations or companies.                               
                                                                               
  MR. HOMAN commented that if that permit was the sole source                  
  of food for a family, it would not be taken away as it would                 
  cause undue hardship on that family.                                         
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GAIL PHILLIPS questioned how long the IRS                     
  would hold the five permits, who would pay the taxes on                      
  those permits while they were held by the IRS, and how the                   
  fishermen were expected to pay taxes on their permits when                   
  fish runs were very low.                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. SOMERVILLE responded by assuring that the IRS was                        
  attempting to work with fishermen on an individual basis.                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE BILL WILLIAMS asked what would happen to the                  
  five permits currently held by the IRS.                                      
                                                                               
  MR. SOMERVILLE stated that each of those five permits were                   
  still in the original owner's names, yet they were held by                   
  the IRS.                                                                     
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN MOSES asked members and the public if there were                    
  further comments.  Hearing none, he adjourned the meeting at                 
  9:45 a.m.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Attached: Memorandum from Department of Law noting                           
  significant         fishery lawsuits                                         

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